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Life after death

by truthseeker in

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everyone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .

what are your views on life after death?.

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still thinking

Nickolas

Christian faith is rooted in historical fact (life, death, resurrection of Jesus)

Can you prove that this isn't a fact?

I am no supporter of any one poster here. But I do believe that the above statement is a fact.

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The Christian Onslaught

by satinka in

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*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.

i have been wondering things like:.

hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.

still thinking

designs...you may indeed be right. But nice or not...this thread has become repulsive. If christians have to disagree and argue about everything...honestly...what hope do any of them think they have of convincing a non christian?

I am all for honest discussion, even a few heated arguments are all good, we are human and sometimes we just need to hammer things out....but I can also see when people are flogging a dead horse.

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The Christian Onslaught

by satinka in

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*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.

i have been wondering things like:.

hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.

still thinking

Good grief. This thread is almost enough to turn anyone away from Christians.

I am really starting to see that humans are not the place to look. God speaks to us individually. All I see are people saying....look here...we have the Christ....no look here...we have the Christ....didn't the bible warn us that this would happen?

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Free anti virus protection

by d in

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does anybody know of an free antivirus protection software i can install on my computer..

still thinking

I've been using Avira and Malware Bytes. Avira isn't bad but I have to say Malware Bytes is fantastic for tracking down and getting rid of viruses

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Did Noah have a pet dinosaur?

by Resistance is Futile in

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Many if not most scientists that developed many of the major theories we now accept as factual.....were creationists. If they had been evolutionists They probably would have been very limited by that understanding and would not have come to the conclusions that they came to based on such an unproven theory.

They believed that God had supernaturally created all things, each with its own complex structure for its own unique purpose. They believed that, as scientists, they were "thinking God's thoughts after Him," learning to understand and control the laws and processes of nature for God's glory and man's good. They believed and practiced science in exactly the same way that modern creationist scientists do.

And somehow this attitude did not hinder them in their commitment to the "scientific method." In fact one of them, Sir Francis Bacon, is credited with formulating and establishing the scientific method! They seem also to have been able to maintain a proper "scientific attitude," for it was these men (Newton, Pasteur, Linnaeus, Faraday, Pascal, Lord Kelvin, Maxwell, Kepler, etc.) whose researches and analyses led to the very laws and concepts of science which brought about our modern scientific age. The mechanistic scientists of the present are dwarfed in comparison to these intellectual giants of the past. Even the achievements of an Einstein (not to mention Darwin!) are trivial in comparison. The real breakthroughs, the new fields, the most beneficial discoveries of science were certainly not delayed (in fact probably were hastened) by the creationist motivations of these great founders of modern science.

TABLE I SCIENTIFIC DISCIPLINES ESTABLISHED BY CREATIONIST SCIENTISTS
DISCIPLINE	SCIENTIST
ANTISEPTIC SURGERY	JOSEPH LISTER (1827-1912)
BACTERIOLOGY	LOUIS PASTEUR (1822-1895)
CALCULUS	ISAAC NEWTON (1642-1727)
CELESTIAL MECHANICS	JOHANN KEPLER (1571-1630)
CHEMISTRY	ROBERT BOYLE (1627-1691)
COMPARATIVE ANATOMY	GEORGES CUVIER (1769-1832)
COMPUTER SCIENCE	CHARLES BABBAGE (1792-1871)
DIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS	LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919)
DYNAMICS	ISAAC NEWTON (1642-1727)
ELECTRONICS	JOHN AMBROSE FLEMING (1849-1945)
ELECTRODYNAMICS	JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879)
ELECTRO-MAGNETICS	MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867)
ENERGETICS	LORD KELVIN (1824-1907)
ENTOMOLOGY OF LIVING INSECTS	HENRI FABRE (1823-1915)
FIELD THEORY	MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867)
FLUID MECHANICS	GEORGE STOKES (1819-1903)
GALACTIC ASTRONOMY	WILLIAM HERSCHEL (1738-1822)
GAS DYNAMICS	ROBERT BOYLE (1627-1691)
GENETICS	GREGOR MENDEL (1822-1884)
GLACIAL GEOLOGY	LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873)
GYNECOLOGY	JAMES SIMPSON (1811-1870)
HYDRAULICS	LEONARDO DA VINCI (1452-1519)
HYDROGRAPHY	MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873)
HYDROSTATICS	BLAISE PASCAL (1623-1662)
ICHTHYOLOGY	LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873)
ISOTOPIC CHEMISTRY	WILLIAM RAMSAY (1852-1916)
MODEL ANALYSIS	LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919)
NATURAL HISTORY	JOHN RAY (1627-1705)
NON-EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY	BERNHARD RIEMANN (1826- 1866)
OCEANOGRAPHY	MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873)
OPTICAL MINERALOGY	DAVID BREWSTER (1781-1868)
PALEONTOLOGY	JOHN WOODWARD (1665-1728)
PATHOLOGY	RUDOLPH VIRCHOW (1821-1902)
PHYSICAL ASTRONOMY	JOHANN KEPLER (1571-1630)
REVERSIBLE THERMODYNAMICS	JAMES JOULE (1818-1889)
STATISTICAL THERMODYNAMICS	JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879)
STRATIGRAPHY	NICHOLAS STENO (1631-1686)
SYSTEMATIC BIOLOGY	CAROLUS LINNAEUS (1707-1778)
THERMODYNAMICS	LORD KELVIN (1824-1907)
THERMOKINETICS	HUMPHREY DAVY (1778-1829)
VERTEBRATE PALEONTOLOGY	GEORGES CUVIER (1769-1832)

Nor should anyone suppose that their commitment to theism and creationism was only because they were not yet acquainted with modern philosophies. Many were strong opponents of Darwinism (Agassiz, Pasteur, Lord Kelvin, Maxwell, Dawson, Virchow, Fabre, Fleming, etc.). Even those who lived before Darwin were strong opponents of earlier evolutionary systems, not to mention pantheism, atheism, and other such anti-supernaturalist philosophies, which were every bit as prevalent then as now.

To illustrate the caliber and significance of these great scientists of the past, Tables I and II have been prepared. These tabulations are not complete lists, of course, but at least are representative and they do point up the absurdity of modern assertions that no true scientist can be a creationist and Bible-believing Christian.

click here for the lists....since they didn't copy http://www.icr.org/article/bible-believing-scientists-past/

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Scandal...

by James4Tea in

i posted this yesterday on a similar forum, but it was deleted despite there being nothing wrong with it.

indeed, the scandal is one that i, myself, suffered.

good afternoon from london.... .

still thinking

I think that teabag packets should come with a mental health warning on the packet. Its very irresponsible of them not to warn people.

"Trying to purchase these teabags can endanger your mental health"

This guy can vouch for that....

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Life after death

by truthseeker in

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everyone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .

what are your views on life after death?.

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still thinking

truthseeker

Those who choose God's side pass through the light and become Holy Ghosts.

Those who do not become converts, that is they become converted to Satan's way of thinking.

Children who die pass over immediately and receive their inheritance. They have special status with the Creator.

What you have said here is quite scary if you really look at them.

This is the type of reasoning cults and nut jobs who kill their children have when they do things in the name of God to protect their children.

It cannot be true. Simply for the fact that if you took this literally the best thing that can happen to us would be to die. If this was the case, death would not have been used as a punishment for original sin. It would be a reward.

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Did Noah have a pet dinosaur?

by Resistance is Futile in

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glenster it wasn't a comment specifically aimed at that website or their article...it was aimed at the scientists who push the theory of evoulution as a fact.

Even though science is continuing to prove that evolution from a single cell in primordial soup cannot have happened simply because of the complexity of the cell and the very remote chance that this could occur, and the fact that they cannot even recreate this scenario in a controlled laboritory setting. Scientists of this mind set will look at this new information which actually conflicts with what they have been teaching, to say it supports it.

This link is not a website I would promote but it does show the probability of this occuring.

http://www.creationbc.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=86&Itemid=62

Secondly, there is no proof that any species has changed into anything else. It is assumed, because they cant explain it. In fact, evolution would suggest that things deteriorate and mutate. They do not become more complex.

Most of the dinosaurs that they have pieced together have not been full skeletons. So they have had to guess what the original would have looked like. What type of skin it had (did it have fur?). Were they warm blooded or cold blooded? There was fairly recent find that actually had some tissue still attached to the bones. It the fossils were as old as the claim, this is an impossibility.

Since the 70's philosopy has taught that we need to assume that evolution is the starting point. And that if anyone holds any other belief or theory then they need to prove it. Well I say the opposite.

Evolutionists try to say that creation science has no place in real science. That is just their opinion. And a very narrow minded one at that.

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Life after death

by truthseeker in

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everyone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .

what are your views on life after death?.

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That's what you got from that quote? Fine-tuning previously held theories is what science is all about.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.........*falls off seat laughing*